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New Years day song

Hi in last months meeting of The Morriston Historical Society, I was asked if I knew the origin of a song that used to be sung by youngsters around the Morriston area on New Years Morning. The words were something like this :-
A Happy New Years morning
The cocks are all a'crowing
And we are all a fighting/rhyming
Rise up, Rise up,
Look at the stars and moon

Does anybody out there Know if this was peculiar to Morriston or did it have a wider currency?
Does any-one remember singing it? If you have any recollections I could pass them on top the next society meeting. It's our 1st AGM on Tues 27th Feb at 7.30 in the Red Lion -- all welcome

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hello Anthony
yes indeed I can remember clearly my grandmother singing this song to me and telling me they sang this around the houses on new years day.They would be going around with the `Mari Lwyd` as youngsters and would get gifts of money or sweets and fruit from the householders. I am nearly sixty and was brought up in Strawberry Place so this would have been in the early fifties -in fact I often sing it to myself when I think of her and it is not something that i can say I would not have thought of in years -it seems to always have been with me.She was Annie Roberts.
I am trying to trace my family history as well and I am trying to find out who the `butter merchant who came from Germany` was.he was i think my gtreat great grandfather and had a shop on the site next to what was the Dyffryn Club.
regards Joy (nee Howell )

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My late Father (Reg)used to sing it. We lived in Bath Road with My Gran and My Uncle Ron.

I still remember it and I am in my late 50s.


....Trevor...

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I remember singing this song as a child in Chemical Road.It was two verses:

It is happy new year's morning
The cocks are all a crowing
Rise up Rise Up
Look at the Stars and Moon

The sun and moon are rising(?)
and we are all a rhyming
Rise up Rise up
Look at the stars and moon.

Several kids would sing it outside the doors of near neighbours and receive a few pence each for doing so.

At the corner of Waun Road and Chemical Road there was an ironmonger's shop ,Uriel Rees I think, which was open on new years day morning. If we sung the song to him he would give us a bar of "palmolive" soap!

I wonder why it was a tradition in Morriston and does it still get sung.

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Hi, I think the ironmongers was Rees and Harris[not Williams] been with old friend tonight Mike Finselbach who also lived in the Avenue and he said it was Rees and Harris so I stand corrected,Rees and Williams was one of the ten or so bus companies who operated out of Swansea in the 50/early 60s , I remember one of the owners of R&H allways wore a light brown long coat very much like Ronnie Barker in open all hours and a brown trillbey, the old 71 buses used to terminate there on some occassions I think it had the suffix "A"alongside 71???,I lived in Heol Maes Y Gelenen at the time and watched with amazement the Regent five front loading 30foot double deckers reversing from Chemical Road into Waun Road,it was challenging to say the least with the conducter and occasionally conductress directing the reversing ,love to see a Bendy Bus doing that!!!!!!,a ironmongers much from the same mould exists in Clydach H.R Jones,[beats B and Q by a mile], run by a Morriston man now living in Ynysforgan and his lovely family Bernard Evans,who lived for many years in Duffryn Terrace,which is long gone,next door to Albert and Rosie Maddocks what a great pair of characters they were very frienly with my parents,sadly no longer with us,but fondly remembered, many people know I purchased with others quite a few years ago a South Wales Tranport Regent five [in a derelect condition] from Denbigh 11 BWN fleet number 571, and rebuilt it over a three period to A1 condition,[its still around]also purchased via Alan Kreppel M.D. S.W.T at the time all the remains of the central stores of the Ravenhill Depot when they were re organizing and amongst the items were conductresses,skirts, and conducters/drivers tops, tunics,trousers,summer uniforms tickiting machines[1 from late 40s],and many others S.W.T.items which I still have including some original bus photos and a few showing Ravenhill Depot,and lots of memorablia,all the best Dursley[Lee]Hanford.

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Thanks for this and your comments about your grandfather on the war memorial ,which I will reply to on the other thread.

I lived in the the row of terrace houses on Chemical Road and the bus stop was outside our house.The 71 bus reversed from there into Waun Road.A cousin of ours was a bus conductress and used to take her tea break in our house when the bus was parked up on Waun Road.

I had not corrected my previous post about Uriel Rees, whose shop I know now was at the end of Woodfield St near St John's Church.

I have been told that the ironmongers was Rees & Harris but until I see the photograph I am told has been found of the shop, I cannot confirm it.Looks as though it was definitely Rees though!!

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Hi
I have canvassed some old friends about this song and found that it was recalled mostly by those living in the eastern side of Morriston and the words we all agreed on were:

It is happy new year's morning
The cocks are all a crowing
If you think it is too soon
If you think it is too soon
Rise up Rise Up
Look at the Stars and Moon

The sun and moon are rising(?)
and we are all a rhyming
If you think it is too soon
If you think it is too soon
Rise up Rise up
Look at the stars and moon.

Bet you cannot wait until 1/1/14 now!!

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Well did anyone in Morriston sing it this morning?

It was not the done thing to sing it after noon !!

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Hi Len, Best Wishes to you and everyone else, A Healthy and Prosperous New Year. Yes we all used to sing this on New Years morning, but my version of the second verse was a little different, it went like this, The Stars and moon are shining, and we are all a Fighting, Rise up Rise up, look at the Stars and Moon, etc, and I do not know why we said fighting instead of Rhyming. My 2nd Cousin Michael Rees was a boy Alto and I was boy soprano and he had many relatives in the upper Morriston area Caemawr, Francise Rd, Vicarage Rd, we would gather quite a lot of loot that New Years morning, and no we did not go door to door here in Yellowknife. It is not Traditional here in YK and it was -40*cels here, Cheers Merlyn

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Happy New Year to you too Merlyn.

-40c that is quite cold. Your second line could be "We're inside a warming" !

It is amazing how the words got changed in different parts of Morriston, but the song does seem quite unique to Morriston.

I wonder what the "Historical Society" concluded about it.

Perhaps one of the local choirs could do an arrangement of it for posterity!!!



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I used to sing it with my sister. We used to go around the houses in our street, Heol-yr-Eithen, just after midnight. My grandpa taught us the song.
Happy New Year's Morning
The cocks are all a crowing
if you think it is too soon
if you think it is too soon
rise up, rise up, and look at the stars and moon

The stars and moon are shining
And we are all a fighting
If you think it is too soon
If you think it is too soon
Rise up, rise up, and look at the stars and moon.

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That is about the definitive version, let's hope some Morriston children continue the tradition!

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I sang this song today, 1 January 2015. My wife looked up the song and found this website. Brilliant. I sang this song with childhood friends in Vicarage Road, Parry Road, Cwmbath Road over many years (late 30's early 40's) and well remember going around houses and knocking on doors.
Incidentally, while in the 6th Form at Swansea Grammar, I was a temporary bus conductor with South Wales Transport and did the 71, 77 and 81 bus routes regularly, also 26 (Llanelly), 42 (Margam) AND Mumbles railway. Those were the days. I've many more tales to tell; where's the forum?

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Great to here I suppose you are never too old to sing it. I sent a voice message/recording to my friends last year they did not challenge the tune I used!!!! Interesting the split between those "rhymers" and "fighters" in the second verse.
Looking forward to your tales!

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We used to sing the same song in Dunvant, with minor changes in the wording- "Rise up a New Year's morning"
We'd go round all the houses in the village singing that song and "Blwyddyn Newydd Dda i chi etc." and be well rewarded.

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Good to hear that it was in other parts of Swansea too. There must be others who recall it,